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-<b>Bacula</b> has four email lists which are described below with
+<b>Bacula</b> has a number of email lists which are described below with
links to subscribe, unsubscribe, or modify your account.
-For general information on these lists, please see
+For general information subscribing to or unsubscribing from these lists, please see
<a href="http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=50727">Bacula Mailing Lists at SourceForge</a>.
-<p>For email archives see below.</p>
+<p>For email archives see the bottom of this page.</p>
+
+Source Forge has rather strict email requirements in order to
+try to minimize the large quantity of spam that the lists receive every day.
+These are mesures that they have implemented, and over which we have no
+control.
+<p>
+If you are having problems subscribing or sending email to a Bacula list,
+please, read the following: <a href="http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1">
+SourceForge.net: Email Problems: Spam, Bounces, Unreceived Messages</a>, then
+if you are still having problems send a support request to Source Forge.
+Source Forge requires the person affected submit his/her own support request;
+the Bacula project is not permitted to do so on your behalf.
+<p>
+One item they do not mention in the above referenced document is grey listing.
+If you are using grey listing, you are likely to have problems with the Source
+Forge email lists. The solution is to whitelist their sending IPs. You might
+want to whitelist their whole zone (66.35.250.0/24) as I (Kern) have done, but
+if you are more conservative, I found only two of their IPs were sending email
+(66.35.250.225 and 66.35.250.206). If you grey list individual Source Forge
+IP addresses, please be sure to check your logs to verify the addresses they
+use for you.
<h3>bacula-announce</h3>
The <b>bacula-announce</b> list is a read only low volume list for those
and to participate.
Due to the increasing volume of spam, you must be subscribed
before you can send email to this list.
+
To subscribe follow the instructions at:
<a href="http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users">Bacula Users List Subscription/Unsubscription/Modification</a>.
<p>
<h3>bacula-devel</h3>
The <b>bacula-devel</b> list is for those users who wish to
communicate directly with the developers. The email volume
-is currently quite low, but can vary.
+is usually quite low (several emails per day), but can vary.
+Due to the increasing volume of spam, you must be subscribed
+before you can send email to this list.
+
To subscribe, please follow this link:
<a href="http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-devel">
Bacula Developers List Subscription/Unsubscription/Modification</a>.
registered at: <a href="http://bugs.bacula.org">
http://bugs.bacula.org</a>. Please do not send email directly
to this list bug file a bug report in the bugs database mentioned
-above.
+above. All email to this list other than from the bugs system itself
+is automatically discarded.
To subscribe, follow follow the instructions at:
<a href="http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-bugs">
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-bugs</a>.
+<h3>bacula-beta</h3>
+The <b>bacula-beta</b> list is a read only
+list for those packagers or users who wish to be notified
+when a new release is in preparation or is ready.
+This list is also used for discussions on running regression
+scripts.
+Due to the increasing volume of spam, you must be subscribed
+before you can send email to this list.
+
+To subscribe, follow follow the instructions at:
+<a href="http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-beta">
+http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-beta</a>.
+
+
<h3>bacula-commits</h3>
The <b>bacula-commits</b> list is a read only
list for those users who wish to be receive a diff of each
-commit to the CVS. Please do not email directly to this list.
+commit to the SVN. Please do not email directly to this list.
+If you do commits, please subscribe your Source Forge name to this
+list. Any mail from non-subscribed users is automatically discarded.
You may subscribe by following the instructions at:
<a href="http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-commits">
<h3>Archives</h3>
Most of the above email lists are archived on Source Forge, but they are
-also archived on Gmane, which has better seach facilities. The
+also archived on Gmane, which has better search facilities. The
Gmane archives are at: <a href="http://news.gmane.org/search.php?match=bacula">
http://news.gmane.org/search.php?match=bacula</a>.
-
+<p>
+The lists are also archived at
+<a href="http://marc.info/">Mailing list ARChives (MARC)</a>.
+<ul>
+<li><a href="http://marc.info/?l=bacula-announce&r=1&w=2">Announce</a></li>
+<li><a href="http://marc.info/?l=bacula-beta&r=1&w=2">BETA</a></li>
+<li><a href="http://marc.info/?l=bacula-bugs&r=1&w=2">Bugs</a></li>
+<li><a href="http://marc.info/?l=bacula-commits&r=1&w=2">Commits</a></li>
+<li><a href="http://marc.info/?l=bacula-devel&r=1&w=2">Devel</a></li>
+<li><a href="http://marc.info/?l=bacula-users&r=1&w=2">Users</a></li>
+</ul>
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